Project management

Dermot paikkos at gmail.com
Wed Jan 23 11:17:50 GMT 2013


Thanks Adrian. There's some really useful stuff there. Am immersing myself
now.
Dermot.



On 23 January 2013 10:34, Adrian Howard <adrianh at quietstars.com> wrote:

> Hey Dermot,
>
>
> On 23/01/13 09:27, Dermot wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I've seen this discussed on the list before but I can't
>> (easily) find it in the archive. I was looking for a Project management
>> course or company. There are a lot of companies in London doing training
>> but I am a little sceptical about their quality. I'm not interested in a
>> certificate. I'd like to grasp a decent methodology. From what I've seen
>> that would be Agile.
>>
>
> Agile != methodology. Agile = broad set of principles/philosophy on
> software development. Particular methods like Scrum, XP, Crystal are Agile.
>
> Sorry - pet niggle. Caused by folk causing me problems by using Agile &
> Scrum as synonyms ;-)
>
>
>  Does anyone want to tout a course or company. I
>> promise not to sue if I think they're crap :-)
>>
>
> 1) Consider Certified Scrum Master course.
>
> The certification itself is pretty useless as a signifier of skill - it
> basically just means you attended a two day course - but the courses
> themselves tend to be quite useful.
>
> The trainers are certified and generally pretty good. It does cost more
> than pocket change. However employers do take notice of CSM certifications
> - however foolish that may be.
>
> The two day course will get you up to speed on the basics of Scrum, and
> usually some pointers to some technical practices that go some way to
> helping a Scrum implementation work.
>
> More here http://is.gd/xJea3J
>
> What this won't give you are insights into non-Scrum methods, and they
> tend to fuzz the Agile/Scrum/everything-else divide a bit from what I've
> heard from some folk.
>
> (I am not a CSM. I am not a Certified Scrum Trainer. I think Scrum is a
> good method - but I have a long rant about the way Scrum gets
> abused/misused. I also think that certification in general has probably
> done more harm than good... but I digress...)
>
>
> 2) General Assembly and Skills Matters
>
> http://skillsmatter.com/ & http://generalassemb.ly/
>
> They both do free/cheapish courses with good presenters. Might be worth
> dipping a toe in here.
>
>
> 3) Try a local agile event
>
> I assume that you're London based. There are some great local Agile events
> that it might be worth toddling along too and quizzing folk.
>
> The Extreme Tuesday Club is one http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?**
> ExtremeTuesdayClub <http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ExtremeTuesdayClub>
>
>
> 4) Try some background reading
>
> I still stand by this list 'o' books as good introductions
> http://qr.ae/8DyB3
>
>
> Also <bias="hubris">Agile training/workshops is something I do a bit
> myself</bias> - drop me a line if y'like ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adrian
>


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